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The Art of the Future, The New Freewoman, 1913

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  • Artists on Art
    • “There is, about artists when asked to define their business, a coyness which would be exquisitely ludicrous if it were evinced by chemists or mathematicians, by carpenters or brick-layers. This coyness, and the vague waving of hands to give the expression of helplessness in-a-sort, in the grip of some high force, which if not divine, is at least too much above the common level…”
      • The cruelty of Huxley’s early work
    • Artists don’t really know what they’re doing: they are the astrologists compared to astronomers, alchemists compared to chemists
      • Really they need a more laborer-like attitude towards their job: “come to their tasks with as much sense of purpose as the carpenter who lays down a floor, or puts in window-frames”
  • Marsden’s Def of Art: Science not Interpretation
    • “we make bold to define the sphere of Art, as the complement of Science. If science is the knowledge gained by applying to non-vital phenomena, the method of accurate description as opposed to that of imaginative interpretation, art is the product of the same method applied to vital (and mainly humanly vital) phenomena.”
      • anti-Romantic
      • echoes Hulme
    • “unprejudiced observation of the ‘thing.’” instead of “the ‘interest’ of the verbal treatment”
  • Why should art care to be scientific?
    • “there exists a reality by faithfulness to which their works will be judged”
      • interesting side note: rhetorically she seems to equate or define reality by the “thing”
    • the conventional folks are happy with what they’ve received regardless of reality, while the people whose imaginations are free also don’t care about reality
      • thus existing art is “charlatanry,” only with ideas and guesses (happens in philosophy, theosophy, ethics, sociology, psychology)
  • Modern Art
    • Seen as “progress” b/c of the “freethinking” it involves
    • But they’re only pushing WORDS around, “verbalities” instead of “living forces;” it’s only “fancy” without “reality”
  • Marinetti guilty of this: “a healthy revolt which might have alighted on reality, is swung off into the folly of ideas”
    • AND THEN FASCINATING CONNEX W/FASCISM: “No wonder that the pendulum starts off again, as a writer in this issue points out (“Discipline and the New Beauty”) on its return swing towards Authority-the continual swing between mutually negating alternatives of tradition and freethought, stupidity and fancy, authority and ideas, discipline and individual whim. It seems to occur to no one that the one alternative is as bad as the other, and that both avoid the reality with which it is art’s sole business to be concerned.”
      • Follows this up w/crazy image: an accountant told he can “cook the books” to his liking will of course think that means Anything Goes and “hatches” the whole thing out of his imagination…whereas the better thing is to kind if improvise BASED on the “real” accounts, that is, off reality
      • I’d say this reminds us that the debate about representationalism actually happens in two different realms: of style (that it seems not to be “transparent”) and content (that it relates to real life)
  • Art’s Job: Delineate the Soul
    • “the at-present hidden, but discoverable, the at-present unknown, but knowable, capable of being observed.”
    • You CAN represent the soul: “The most superficial observation makes it clear that the soul breaks into evidence as readily as pain breaks into a cry, and the work of genius has been just the delineation of the manner how.”
    • “The line of true delineation of the soul is the direction which all progress in Art must take.”
    • Its Love, Hate, God, Sex, Good, Evil, Hope, Anger etc
      • on Love: “The interpretation of spirit with spirit, are genuine phenomena and not verbalities.”
      • defuses the mystery of the intellect: “the matter of intellect, so much debated, and likely to prove no matter at all, to be merged and explained in the bale of the emotions; likely to be proved that it is instinct, well served by senses”
        • In the end, feelings are everything: “are all in all, and knowledge but the coordination of feeling repeated in experience; that all the senses are senses of touch, i.e., contact-the impinging of organised life upon the things foreign to itself; the shiver of difference, and the shrinking where the ‘I’ is touched by the ‘not I’”
  • Seems like a contradiction: how can you be scientific and yet have a soul?
    • Well, you can have “evidence” for the soul
      • “begin humbly with the matter which lies to hand: as Archimedes began with the physics observable in his bath, or Newton watching an apple fall, or Watts the spluttering of a tea-kettle.”
      • reveals that the separation of art and science isn’t as obvious as we think
    • Diff between method of representation (which is scientific) and object of representation (which is soul)

Stuff on Marsden

  • Before Pound started hyping his own version of the journal, the Freewoman and the New Freewoman were individualist feminist POLITICAL debates; he tried to say the journal was “a quiet literary journal”
    • He cultivated a masculinist view of artistic production, saying women are better at the “useful stuff” whereas men are the creators
    • Lyon notes that Marsden and Rebecca West’s journal actually gave him an aesthetic venue that he really needed: this is a pattern that Janet finds, where what women do ends up somehow helping men (“gendered symbiosis between male form and feamle conduit” 143 Manifestoes)
  • Marsden: view of art as soul; plus the work of her supporters largely soul art: anti-intellectual, spiritual art was her stuff
    • “the use of ideas should be strongly discouraged”
  • Marsden as not same as “parliamentary suffragism:” she has attacked Pankhursts, militancy, suffragis, chastity, etc
    • Suffragism “Too womanly” in Marsden’s opinion, says Janet
    • Also, Marsden sees “gendered roles of woman as the end results of individual adoptions of social codes” (which Janet sees as a kind of false consciousness) ... which is terrible b/c she’s all about the Ultimate Individual Determination
  • Janet sees such feminism as Marsden’s as a decentering operation: “the new freewoman may well be a citizen of that centerless state” (that is of the misogynist, Pound-ish idea that woman is chaos)
  • Janet says her “central aim in her editorials…is to expose the constructedness of all social and philosophical categories of thought” even to degree that freedom itself must be understood individually by each person
  • Janet notes the editorial about the Welsh mining strikes, where Marsden says you have to think something’s wrong with the miners to think it’s their WORK to get coal for other people in such dangerous conditions.
    • Janet: Marsden thinks that they self-elect to suffer, which is stupid; that they “traded their souls” for a chance at security in group identification
  • Janet on the limits of Marsden: “Marsden’s ascription to man of universal subjecthood and to woman of indexical sociosexual marking…is of a piece with the modernist-avant-garde lexical category of ‘woman’” such as we find in Marinetti and Pound.
    • Both the A G and Marsden see the feminine as something to “break up and dissolve,” a pejorative term; she wants women ungendered
  • Janet notes that so many women at this time called wifehood prostitution: Schreiner, Goldman, Isadora Duncan, as well as Marinetti
    • 147 Janet’s footnote, a quote from Schreiner’s Women and Labor where says prostitute “performs no productive labor”
      • This is a good place to insert my defense about the significance of the argument about women’s work

Random Nietzsche Quote, Twilight of the Idols

  • ”...the value of life cannot be estimated. Not by a living man because he is party to the dispute, indeed its object and not the judge of it; not by a dead one, for another reason.” That’s why men can’t judge whether living is good or bad. (p 30 from 1990 Penguin ed., hollingdale trans.)